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Post by heelz1 on Apr 5, 2012 16:41:12 GMT -5
UNC will be looking good again next year with McAdoo coming back along with the rest. We will be super strong at guard and small forward, and McAdoo will be carrying some wieght down low. He will be wanting to prove a lot this year so look out!!! More recruits will only help. Look out for Hairston next year! He is going to be the man!
The pack.....not so good!!!
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 8:20:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the laugh this morning. Yeah, JMM was so good, Roy kept him on the bench until Gumby got hurt. Hairston needs to look out for the basket. Rumor has it he was at the beach and missed the ocean when he tried to shoot a ball into it.
Yeah, we will all look out for UNC. And not all the rest are coming back. Zeller, Watts, Black Crow, Gumby and Butter are all gone.
But of course, UNC's recruits are all the greatest and other teams are not.
Yeah, we ACC fans completely understand UNC fans logic.
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Post by Harnett Co. HEEL on Apr 6, 2012 9:16:40 GMT -5
Joco...you better worry about whether or not little Plumlee will be back. Yeah, I think Carolina fans will appreciate the return of a player who could have been a top 10 pick in the draft (as predicted by all the draft experts, not just UNC fans). Plumlee= D-League material. You sound worried, bringing Hairston up. How did he even become involved in a thread about McAdoo? You will see Hairston raining jumpers for the next 3 years, don't you worry little fella. Carolina's recruits will be fine. And you better pray we don't land Oriakhi.
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Post by heelz1 on Apr 6, 2012 10:29:06 GMT -5
Jock O = Dookies Worry! UNC is going to be a top team in the ACC again and that is 4-sure!!! And the rest I mentioned above include - McAdoo, Strickland, McDonald, Bullock, Hairston, Hubert and the new guys! Sounds like a line up most coaches would love to have. BTW - what will dook do when they run out of plumdumlees??? ROFL!!!!!
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 11:29:41 GMT -5
I believe the original poster brought up Hairston. Yeah, all the guys drafted in the top 10 or 20 always produce and live up to expectations. I guess we shall see when JMM is the focus of the opposing teams defense. Mason Plumlee has had very good stats and a winning record against UNC, has a NC and I think averaged a double double in the ACC. Better than Prince Harry can say. And all the draft experts I have seen, have Mason in the first round. I dont think you go to the D league if you are in the first round. So, I guess we are supposed to believe the NBA draft guys when they have your boy in the top 10 but not the Duke player in the 1st round. Yeah, that sounds about right for Hole logic. Joco...you better worry about whether or not little Plumlee will be back. Yeah, I think Carolina fans will appreciate the return of a player who could have been a top 10 pick in the draft (as predicted by all the draft experts, not just UNC fans). Plumlee= D-League material. You sound worried, bringing Hairston up. How did he even become involved in a thread about McAdoo? You will see Hairston raining jumpers for the next 3 years, don't you worry little fella. Carolina's recruits will be fine. And you better pray we don't land Oriakhi.
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 11:32:53 GMT -5
I love that you are counting on two guys who have recently had reconstructive knee surgery. Hubert, really? Now that is a belly laugher. The only two ACC players you mentioned are Bullock and JMM. And like I said previously, the Plumlee's have a winning record against UNC, a NC and Mason averaged a double double in the ACC. You can make fun of their names all you want but they have kicked UNC's ass all over the place the last 3 years. I think it is like 4 of the last 6 games they have played, Duke has won. LMAO and ROFL at you blind Hole love. Jock O = Dookies Worry! UNC is going to be a top team in the ACC again and that is 4-sure!!! And the rest I mentioned above include - McAdoo, Strickland, McDonald, Bullock, Hairston, Hubert and the new guys! Sounds like a line up most coaches would love to have. BTW - what will dook do when they run out of plumdumlees??? ROFL!!!!!
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Post by Harnett Co. HEEL on Apr 6, 2012 12:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 12:17:45 GMT -5
Yep, Mason in the first round. www.mynbadraft.com/2012-NBA-Mock-DraftHeck, I hope he decides to come back. I hate the NBA. But typical UNC, all those NBA players and NO NCAA Championship. Sounds like the Dean Smith years all over again.
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Post by Harnett Co. HEEL on Apr 6, 2012 12:36:58 GMT -5
^BUT....no first round losses to a mid-major either!!
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Post by heelz1 on Apr 6, 2012 13:02:05 GMT -5
Also I thought we beat dook by 18 in the Rat Dome the last time we played. Shortly thereafter I beleive "LE HIGH" kicked that azz!!! First round NCAA.....ROFL...dook really had a shatty season....again!!!! LOL
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 13:20:43 GMT -5
Love that. When presented with actual facts and have no factual responses, resort to childish responses. The Carolina Way. BTW, Duke wasnt favored to win it all and go undefeated in the ACC this year by the most arrogant illogical fan base on the planet. And Duke still split with you. You didnt seem to mention our win in Three Rivers Stadium, aka, The Jay Williams Dome. I love dealing with children like you two. ^BUT....no first round losses to a mid-major either!!
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Post by Harnett Co. HEEL on Apr 6, 2012 14:13:07 GMT -5
Facts? LEHIGH- 75 Dook- 70...........That is a fact!!! (I know it still stings for DOOK fans) One of the biggest, most embarrassing upsets in NCAA tournament history: FACT Childish responses?? I can do that too. Like calling your little shoebox arena Hansbrough Indoor Stadium. Does that work for you? Yeah we split on a wing and a prayer shot at the buzzer, but you seem to forget the blowout on Mile's senior night. There's another FACT for you buddy.
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 14:54:50 GMT -5
Some pretty good teams have been upset in the NCAA tournament. Does Weber State ring a bell? Or maybe Bucknel and Kansas or Syracuse and Princeton I think. Shyt happens. Duke wasnt going to win it all this year. Anyone with a half a brain could have told you that. Now UNC on the other hand, I grew weary from hearing from the Hole nation on how they were going to dominate and win the whole thing this year. And that was over the summer. Question, is there an asterik next to the Duke win in Three Rivers Stadium? Did Duke get less than a win in the win/loss column? Yeah, we know the answer to that one. NOPE. And you know what, we will be seeing Rivers Dagger over Icabod for years and years to come on NATIONAL TV. UNC's lucky win in Cameron, not so much. Now go on exagerating and making yourself feel better about your lack of success this year at UNC. And please dont forget to start making excuses. Because we all know that is next on your hit list. And you didnt have to add to your childish responses, you already lived up to that in the previous post. BTW, Miles and Mason still have a winning record over UNC while at Duke and a NC and two ACC Championships. Prince Harry, Gumby and Butter(pretty obvious his daddy likes butter. (Have you seen the size of that dude?) Not so much. Losing record against Duke. Preseason #1. Favorite to win it all. How did that work out for you? Facts? LEHIGH- 75 Dook- 70...........That is a fact!!! (I know it still stings for DOOK fans) One of the biggest, most embarrassing upsets in NCAA tournament history: FACT Childish responses?? I can do that too. Like calling your little shoebox arena Hansbrough Indoor Stadium. Does that work for you? Yeah we split on a wing and a prayer shot at the buzzer, but you seem to forget the blowout on Mile's senior night. There's another FACT for you buddy.
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Post by Harnett Co. HEEL on Apr 6, 2012 15:10:04 GMT -5
An elite 8 loss after several key injuries....I will take that. Was Tar Heel nation hoping for more? Sure. If you take the best PG in the nation (Cousy award winner) away from a top team, of course they won't reach their potential. Not excuses, FACTS. Another fact is this.....Carolina was simply a better team than Duke this year. That is a FACT any way you look at it. Neither team won the national title which is the ultimate goal. Neither team won the ACC tourney. But any way you want to break it down, CAROLINA was the better team in 2012.
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 16:20:09 GMT -5
Yep, you are correct. UNC was better. Duke lost 95% of their offense from last year and 3 starters. UNC had their entire starting 5 back. Neither game should have been close. Duke was only down 8 at Cameron with less than 8 minutes left and beat you in the Nose Dome. With all the expectations, Duke actually had a better year since they far exceeded expecations. An elite 8 loss after several key injuries....I will take that. Was Tar Heel nation hoping for more? Sure. If you take the best PG in the nation (Cousy award winner) away from a top team, of course they won't reach their potential. Not excuses, FACTS. Another fact is this.....Carolina was simply a better team than Duke this year. That is a FACT any way you look at it. Neither team won the national title which is the ultimate goal. Neither team won the ACC tourney. But any way you want to break it down, CAROLINA was the better team in 2012.
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Post by Harnett Co. HEEL on Apr 6, 2012 16:28:13 GMT -5
I tell you what Joco. I have thoroughly enjoyed this friendly little back and forth with you. To be honest, Tizu did a great job putting this site together, but there hasn't been much posting going on here lately. So I appreciate the fact that someone else (like yourself, tizu, marty, mattncsu, ken d, heelz, etc.) shares a passion for their team, and the ACC for that matter. Keep it up man, I aint mad at ya!
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Post by Ken D on Apr 6, 2012 18:02:14 GMT -5
Not to be too picky, but in the preseason AP poll, Duke was ranked #6 and in the final poll they were #8. How is that greatly exceeding expectations?
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Post by jocodevil on Apr 6, 2012 21:15:24 GMT -5
It is called actually knowing the game of college basketball and the teams who play it. I seem to recall the Holes being ranked in the top 10, maybe top 5 in 2010 when they played in the NIT. How did that preseason ranking work out? How did those sportswriters do in 2010 preseason. Teams should not even be ranked until the end of January. All that preseason junk is for is ESPN and to sell magazines and web site subscriptions. Means nothing. Not to be too picky, but in the preseason AP poll, Duke was ranked #6 and in the final poll they were #8. How is that greatly exceeding expectations?
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Post by Ken D on Apr 7, 2012 8:40:28 GMT -5
I certainly agree teams shouldn't be ranked so early. But they are. And the preseason rankings are pretty much the definition of "expectations". They don't always work out. Sometimes that's because the expectations were unrealistic, and sometimes it's because the team either over acheived or under achieved.
In Duke's case this year, the expectations proved to be realistic. I sure didn't hear a lot of fans or analysts saying "no way should Duke be ranked so high". If anything Duke fans were enthusiastic about their chances, especially against Carolina.
To be honest, I think any school in the top 8 can't be said to have underachieved. Preseason rankings are an inexact science, given the prominence of freshmen in key roles on many teams. Some of those frosh deliver and some don't. But for the most part, the analysts got it right this year. With the exception of Kansas, the teams that made it to the Elite Eight were expected to be there.
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Post by heelz1 on Apr 7, 2012 9:40:28 GMT -5
Jock-less - Fact = Dook lost 3 of their last 4 games. This included an 18 point shellacking by UNC at the Kiwi Palace and lowly Lehigh in 1st round of NCAA. Nothing childish there. Just the facts maam. Another flameout year for Dook only this time it was even earlier than usual.
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