ACC Coaches

[Marty Da Hungry Wolf]

I post this thread not as a jab at any school or coach, circumstances have been different everywhere throughout history. And, no, I cannot give a "link" (I know I saw this earlier in the litterbox but there is way to much poo to sift through now to go back and find it). I used to do "research" threads like this in the dark ages when I was still allowed to post in the litterbox, because I like thought-provoking debates rather than feces-fests, but I saw a disparaging post about Mark Gottfried earlier today in a litterbox thread, so I decided to do a little research (with apologies if I inadvertently left out a school or missed some facts but I've literally been working on this throughout the entire Pitt-UVA game and there is now 7:18 left in the game and it's in a Timeout):

All-Time ACC Schools (Past and/or Present, as of 3/15/14)

Coaches with 3+ 20-win seasons to start their careers at THAT particular ACC school*
(*For many years in the early 20th Century, teams didn’t even play 20 games in a season)

Boston College (0 - could only find as far back as 1945-46 season)
www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/boston-college/

Clemson (0)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Clemson_Tigers_men%27s_basketball_seasons

Duke (0)
www.dukeupdate.com/yearbyyear.html

Florida State (from what I can find, 0)
literally can’t find anything concrete on a season-by-season basis; various wikipedia page searches, coach-by-coach for Don Loucks, J.K. Kennedy, Hugh Durham, Joe Williams, Pat Kennedy, Steve Robinson, and Leonard Hamilton

Georgia Tech (from what I can find, 0)
literally can’t find anything concrete on a season-by-season basis; various wikipedia page searches, coach-by-coach for Bobby Cremins, Paul Hewitt, and Brian Gregory

Maryland (0)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Maryland_Terrapins_men's_basketball_seasons

Miami (from what I can find, 0)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Hurricanes_men's_basketball#Season_records_since_rejoining_Division_I_in_1985

North Carolina (1 - Bill Guthridge)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_men's_basketball_seasons

NC State (2 - Everett Case, Mark Gottfried)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC_State_Wolfpack_men's_basketball_seasons

Notre Dame (1 - Mike Brey)
www.und.com/sports/m-baskbl/archive/nd-m-baskbl-a-coaches.html (thru 1995-96)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre_Dame_Fighting_Irish_men's_basketball
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Brey

Pittsburgh (1 - Jamie Dixon)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pittsburgh_Panthers_men's_basketball_seasons

South Carolina (0)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Gamecocks_men's_basketball

Syracuse (1 - Jim Boeheim)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracuse_Orange_men's_basketball

Virginia (1 - Jeff Jones)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Cavaliers_men's_basketball

Virginia Tech (0)
www.unirel.vt.edu/history/athletics/mens_basketball.html

Wake Forest (1 - Skip Prosser)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake_Forest_Demon_Deacons_men's_basketball

I just find it interesting (aside from the fact that NC State is the only school that has EVER been in the ACC that has two separate coaches with 20+ wins in each of their first three seasons at an ACC school) that so many people, some appearing to be fans of other schools and some even appearing to be NC State fans (although I could be wrong), seem to think that NC State needs to ditch Mark Gottfried. I am not one of those people. I am one that fully feels like NC State Mens' Basketball is headed in the right direction, thru objective observation of both on the court performance and off the court results (academics, recruiting, no front page articles for the wrong reasons, etc.)

[Tizu]

Good stuff, Marty! There is no way Gottfried should be going anywhere. He's done a great job at NCSU. Making it into the NCAAs the first 3 years of his tenure there is pretty awesome. I like him as a coach and I think he will really bring NCSU to national prominence if given the chance. He's a winner and he can recruit like crazy. I look for State to really turn it on within the next year or two.

[Marty Da Hungry Wolf]

Thanks, Tiz. I'm not immune to legitimately witty and funny "smack talk", but the Litterbox is just too full of cat candy anymore.

Your post here is precisely the reason I didn't want Calipari before he went to Memphis several years ago (there were rumors that State flew him in and met with him at RBC/PNC/ABC Arena). Did he win there, and INSTANTLY? Hell yes, he did. Funny to me, though, that the first two truly great teams he coached were during seasons in which only three teams officially participated in the Final Four.

I'll say this again and again until proven wrong: Kentucky will rue the day they hired that man. Unless, of course, they're playing by SEC football rules and therefore have enough money to cover the poo.

[Marty Da Hungry Wolf]

Oh, by the way:

college-basketball.si.com/2014/03/16/smu-ncaa-tournament/?eref=sihp

[On N.C. State as the last team in: “The positive factor for N.C. State was that they had three wins against top 50 teams away from home. Not only did they beat those top 50 teams, but they did it on the road. Road wins against top 50 teams are really, really impressive to the committee. That probably was the one factor that was most prominent.”]

But Gott can't coach. Riiight. State only had three road wins all last season, with more "talent". I like our direction.