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Post by cvholt87 on May 22, 2012 13:05:47 GMT -5
According to The Orange Bloods, the Texas rivals site, four ACC schools have made informal contact with the Big 12 about the possibility of expansion. Apparently all of the interest has come after the Big 12 - SEC bowl game that was rumored a few weeks ago. The schools that made contact are Florida State, Clemson, Miami, and VT. According to their sources, there is a 55-60% chance of expansion with the following pecking order - Notre Dame, Florida State, Clemson, and followed by VT.
Obviously, things are not looking up for the ACC. As the Big 12 commissioner has shown in his short stint, leadership during this time is of paramount importance. It is something that the ACC seems to be lacking and it could end up costing us the legitimacy and longevity of the conference itself.
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Post by jgunn on May 22, 2012 13:48:52 GMT -5
I don't see those schools jumping ship on the ACC, I really don't. Other than FSU, I haven't read or heard anything about the other schools being unhappy with the conference. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I don't see it happening. I'd hate to see anything happen to the ACC, and , I think Swofford has been proactive as far as expanding and keeping the ACC intact.
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Post by jgunn on May 22, 2012 15:23:04 GMT -5
Soooo, shortly after I said I didn't hear or read anything about schools possibly bolting from the ACC, I turned on 99.9 and heard Joe Weitzel discuss this very topic with Mike Maniscalso. Weitzel wasn't predicting doom and gloom for the ACC, but he did say that the recent agreement between the SEC and the Big 12 regarding the four team football playoff may leave the ACC out in the cold as far as getting an automatic bid. Of course, it all boils down to the almight dollar. Apparently, the ACC needs to be more proactive in working out some sort of football playoff deal. Nothing is in stone, and even the four team playoff model has to be approved, but the ACC needs to stay on top of this.
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Post by cvholt87 on May 22, 2012 15:38:15 GMT -5
Agreed. I realize Swofford has tried to keep up with the Jones' in regards to expansion but it's the football playoff picture that will scare away the big talents in the conference. If we were to lose 2 out of the 3 between FSU, Clemson, and VT, we would essentially be eliminated from the BCS picture.
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Post by Ken D on May 22, 2012 15:42:14 GMT -5
The most immediate danger I see is that two of the four BCS bowls are now spoken for - the Rose Bowl (Big Ten/PAC 12) and no doubt the Sugar Bowl (SEC/Big XII). The path of least resistance for a four team playoff would seem to me to be to use the two remaining sites, the Orange and the Fiesta, as semifinal sites, with Cowboys Stadium in Dallas as the centrally located championship game site.
That would freeze the ACC out of the picture unless our champ is one of the top 4 champs in the rankings. I wonder if Swofford is trying as we speak to lock in a contract with the Orange Bowl to preempt this, since the BCS seems to be dead in the water already.
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Post by Ken D on May 22, 2012 15:47:15 GMT -5
According to The Orange Bloods, the Texas rivals site, four ACC schools have made informal contact with the Big 12 about the possibility of expansion. Apparently all of the interest has come after the Big 12 - SEC bowl game that was rumored a few weeks ago. The schools that made contact are Florida State, Clemson, Miami, and VT. According to their sources, there is a 55-60% chance of expansion with the following pecking order - Notre Dame, Florida State, Clemson, and followed by VT. Obviously, things are not looking up for the ACC. As the Big 12 commissioner has shown in his short stint, leadership during this time is of paramount importance. It is something that the ACC seems to be lacking and it could end up costing us the legitimacy and longevity of the conference itself. I think Notre Dame is wishful thinking on the Big XII's part. And I think VaTech would have a hard time politically making such a move so soon after the power play that got them into the ACC in the first place. Clemson and FSU wouldn't surprise me, though I think they would learn to regret it. I think both of those schools would jump at the SEC in a heartbeat, and I think their public flirtation with the Big XII may be designed to elicit a bid from the SEC. I doubt the Big XII would have much interest in Miami.
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Post by Marty Da Hungry Wolf on May 22, 2012 20:40:42 GMT -5
If the NCAA doesn't act soon they run the risk of having the inmates (football schools) running the asylum.
BREAKING NEWS
That horse has left the barn.
If the NCAA doesn't have the, ahem, fortitude to administer the CHAMPIONSHIP of the sport of Division I college football, then I'll be damned if I can see how in the hell the NCAA has the right to investigate and sanction schools that violate NCAA rules.
To use UNC as an example: they violated NCAA "rules", so the NCAA banned them from competing for a championship that the NCAA has no part in awarding. If this continues to where it looks like it's headed, I think all penalties against USC, Ohio State, UNC, Georgia Tech, Miami and others should be immediately rescinded and the teams restored to their former ranks without further delay (MOVIE REFERENCE).
The NCAA is completely missing a GOLDEN opportunity here.
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Post by mattncsu02 on May 23, 2012 10:33:42 GMT -5
My prediction.....FSU and Clemson leave, VT and Miami stay. I hope I'm wrong and all of them stay.
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